• Asks if the market is accepting a risk premium from the US-Iran conflict and if it's already priced in given recent volatility.
    Speaker1
  • Jim Bianco
    No, the market is not accepting a permanent risk premium. Consensus only considers short-term scenarios (days to months), ignoring historical precedents like the 8-year Suez Canal closure. Even a short-term conflict sets a precedent; risk premiums cannot return to pre-war lows as tensions could flare again.
  • Suggests market conditioning from past events (COVID, inflation, bank failures) where sell-offs were buying opportunities has dimmed risk-off sentiment.
    Speaker1
  • Jim Bianco
    Agrees. Wall Street has been 'fooled too many times' and now treats every negative news event as a buying opportunity, operating that way with the current conflict.
  • Asks where oil prices should trade if the Strait of Hormuz situation becomes akin to the Suez Canal crisis.
    Speaker1
  • Jim Bianco
    A shortage exists: global consumption is ~103M bpd vs. supply of ~90M bpd. Price must rise and stay high to force a 13M bpd reduction in global consumption. If price falls, demand returns to an unsustainable level. Workarounds (pipelines) would take years.
  • Notes another analyst said the US consumer could live with $100 oil.
    Speaker1
  • Jim Bianco
    Agrees $100+ oil may not impair the US economy, but Asian economies (Australia, Philippines) would be under pressure. Much higher prices are needed if the situation is protracted. We'll know in the next week or two.
  • Asks if the expected oil price increase is stagflationary, inflationary, or deflationary.
    Speaker1
  • Jim Bianco
    More inflationary. The key is nominal GDP (real growth + inflation). If inflation rises more than real growth falls (and real growth shows little sign of falling), nominal GDP rises, pushing interest rates up. The Fed should lean toward hiking. Tomorrow's CPI (est. 0.9% MoM) will push YoY over 3% with no commensurate real economy pullback.
  • Summarizes: higher nominal growth means drifting higher interest rates. Asks when 10-year yields will reflect this, noting the recent yield increase came from real yields, not inflation expectations.
    Speaker1
  • Jim Bianco
    It could change substantially in the next couple of weeks if the belief shifts to a longer-lasting risk premium (threat to shipping/oil production). Currently, yields are up but not due to inflation expectations because everyone thinks the conflict is short-term. If the risk premium is seen as more permanent, inflation expectations will kick in and rates will move higher.
  • Asks if rate hikes could be back on the table in the next couple of Fed meetings.
    Speaker1
  • Jim Bianco
    There's a reasonable chance. We shouldn't fear rate hikes; they signal strong nominal growth. The narrative that higher rates are always bad is false. In a strong economy, higher rates can be a sign things are getting better.
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