• You have a base case that at some point this year we're going to go down 20%, that we're going to have a bear market.
    Scott
  • Tom Lee
    We do expect that decline to happen when markets don't respond to good news. We're in a period where we had a bear market already in software, the Mag7 and in crypto. That's already taken out a lot of speculation. Our bet would be markets are actually going to lift through the end of the month, that we're going to actually be positive for March and maybe hit 7300 later in the year, is when we think a bear market might show itself.
  • We're watching oil so closely, driven by headlines, some of which are apparently erroneous.
    Scott
  • Tom Lee
    It's very confusing time. If I look back at the last two days, oil's $15 higher than it was last week, but the S&P is higher. The market actually is handling higher oil prices better. We think higher oil prices are actually good for the US stock market.
  • How in the world are higher oil prices, which then mean even higher gas prices and higher input costs, possibly good for the stock market?
    Scott
  • Tom Lee
    Part of it's a relative. US is an exporter of oil, so we net benefit as an economy from higher oil. Other countries are importers, so the US not only looks better but on a relative growth basis it should outperform which means flows back into the US. As we worry about global growth, when growth is scarce, people buy growth stocks. The US stock market is a growth index. So it's coming out of the rest of the world back into the US. It's a rotation story.
  • You think software's bottomed. Why?
    Scott
  • Tom Lee
    Software has bottomed because we tend to price in the negative risks early, which I think has happened. We've seen the multiples come in. The IGV software ETF index has lost five multiple points. Now the forward PE is 16 times. You're trading this like a cyclical industry now. Out of that universe of 110 stocks many actually have durable businesses. You're getting paid to buy it here at 16 times.
  • If higher oil prices are okay for the stock market, doesn't the broadening trade have an issue with that? If you start worrying about the impact of higher oil prices on the economy itself, how does the broadening trade work?
    Scott
  • Tom Lee
    The US economy is going to have some risks for the reasons you describe, which is why I think growth stocks start to look better, which is a lot of tech. The US is a growth index. I'd probably lean towards growth stocks outperform which is not necessarily a broadening trade.
  • Bitcoin hasn't traded like many had suspected at times of turmoil. It wasn't a safe haven play. Where does Bitcoin go from here? Is your confidence in it in any way shaken?
    Scott
  • Tom Lee
    It's not. Bitcoin did basically break on October 10th because that was the biggest deleveraging event in the history of crypto. When gold went up Bitcoin went down. But I think we have gone through a winter where a lot of the speculation and the leverage is gone. This weekend kind of showed Bitcoin is coming back as a store of value because oil prices went up but over the weekend crypto prices actually surged and Bitcoin is holding above 70,000.
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