Refunds will take a long time, be selective, and there will be pressure not to claim. Treasuries should be at 4% on the 10-year. Has been bullish since 4.25%, and at 4.05-4.06% is a little more indifferent. Thinks there's more room to lower yields, but limited on how much of a safe haven it can be at current yields given the inflation story and all the uncertainty (tariffs, embargoes).