• What's driving yields lower?
    Jonathan Ferro
  • Bob Michele
    The bond market is sitting with a growing stack of chips. Clients are underallocated to fixed income. We are the perfectly priced market. The two-year Treasury near Fed funds looks good. Credit spreads look fair. The pain trade was a bullish flattening of the yield curve; we're starting to see that.
  • Your CEO talked about problems brewing and people acting irresponsibly. Do you see any issues percolating in private credit?
    Lisa Abramowicz
  • Bob Michele
    One of the things we've been looking at is CLO equity prices and how those have dropped. For those of us who have been around a long time, it's reminiscent of the 2005-07 period going into 2008. It's looking like the first loss pieces of structured credit are starting to crack.
  • If a fund sells a portfolio of loans close to par, does that end the idea assets aren't marked properly?
    Jonathan Ferro
  • Bob Michele
    It tells you things are functioning okay right now for the first movers. As long as the economy continues at trend, a rolling loan gathers no loss. What everyone's worried about is we haven't had a shakeout in private credit yet, and a recession is that ultimate shakeout.
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