• Bruce Richards
    The software industry is experiencing a technological change (AI) that will permanently alter pricing, similar to fracking's impact on oil & gas in 2014. This is happening alongside excessive leverage in private credit.
  • Bruce Richards
    Software represents 23% of direct lending but only 1% of US companies and 7% of public companies - a massive concentration risk from the 'gold rush' to finance software buyouts.
  • Bruce Richards
    Public software companies (NASDAQ, S&P, Russell 2000) have reasonable debt levels (0.5-1x leverage), but private direct lending has 20x leverage - these companies cannot generate cash flow to reposition for AI.
  • Investors are waking up to this risk, causing redemptions from private credit funds, forcing sales of loans at par value (likely their best assets).
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  • Bruce Richards
    Capital availability will dry up for loan extensions in 2027-28, leading to 'extend and pretend' scenarios where loans won't get paid interest.
  • Asks if this means software lending is over entirely.
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  • Bruce Richards
    Software lending needs conservative multiples (4x EBITDA, not 10x) with higher spreads. The broader economy will be fine - this is a sector-specific issue, not systemic.
  • Bruce Richards
    Current 23% software exposure in direct lending is too high and will create good opportunities for disciplined lenders.
  • Asks where opportunities will be in software - oversold names or cheap debt?
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  • Bruce Richards
    Public and private equity will buy distressed software assets at pennies on the dollar. Private equity has the upside; private credit doesn't.
  • Asks if he's buying anything in software currently.
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  • Bruce Richards
    Not buying software now. Focused on hard-asset lending: concrete, commercial real estate, aircraft, maritime assets, turbines - businesses with low obsolescence and good recovery value.
  • Bruce Richards
    Bullish on the economy, lending against hard assets at 66% LTV with full recovery in defaults, unlike software with near-zero recovery.
  • Bruce Richards
    This explains why industrials/materials are up 25% while software is down 25-40%.
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