• Introduces report on potential AI scenarios hitting delivery, payments, software companies; asks about timeline and probability of AI disruption.
    Host
  • Alab Shah
    Timeline chosen (2028) to drive conversation on policy needed to avoid scenario; US white-collar job market already weak; AI agents will significantly replace jobs, diffusion through economy will take time but leading edge is concerning.
  • Asks if surprised by market reaction.
    Host
  • Alab Shah
    Reaction larger than expected but not surprising given AI trade has been straight line up for 3.5 years, everyone max long, few incremental buyers left; market digesting that AI is more powerful and starting to disperse benefits/losses.
  • Asks if this was a short seller report.
    Host
  • Alab Shah
    Constantly churning book, have shorts in businesses to be disrupted by AI, own semiconductors that benefit; main story is risk to overall economy and consumer economy if jobs go faster than we think.
  • Asks which sectors next victims and best positioned.
    Host
  • Alab Shah
    Intermediation sectors at real risk: financial services, insurance, banks (credit cards, lending, deposits). In world where AI agent does tasks for you, friction of changing providers drops precipitously.
  • Asks about big winners and whether it's necessarily bad for markets.
    Host
  • Alab Shah
    Semiconductors, upstream to semiconductors, data center materials, foundation labs, businesses with true economic moats (brands, status goods) are huge winners.
  • Asks what breaks the negative feedback loop (AI gets better/cheaper, companies lay off, invest in AI, more layoffs, weaker consumers).
    Host
  • Alab Shah
    Feedback loop broken by policy: tax incremental/windfall gains from AI complex (materials, semiconductors, foundation labs, tech) and companies cutting jobs without demand suffering; need asymmetric corporate tax to maintain equilibrium.
  • Asks for specific milestones to watch over next five years.
    Host
  • Alab Shah
    Biggest tell is white-collar employment in US, especially information workers; employment by information category already down almost 8% from peak; maps to big tech layoffs as they roll out AI.
  • Asks why Asia/China muted to AI scare, and if China can overthrow offerings like Anthropic.
    Host
  • Alab Shah
    China foundation lab companies only public exposure globally, so zooming; China analog for what happens in US next two years: automation already rolled through economy, weak consumer economy dragging everything down.
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